Director Diana M. Trotter on Whitworth’s *The Illusion*
Bobo’s Q&A with director Diana Trotter of Whitworth’s Theater Arts department and (at the end) with Leonard Oakland of Whitworth’s English department (and of Movies 101 and the Sunday-morning classical music show on KPBX) — a mashup of three e-mail exchanges:
In 1988, Tony Kushner revised Pierre Corneille’s 1636 play, L’Illusion Comique. He has added scenes, modernized the language (removed all those Alexandrine couplets) and more.
Why does the magician show the old man his son in three differing and varied scenarios? What's the point of introducing all the confusion?
Well, now, there’s the question! I’m not telling because that would be a spoiler.
What's been the biggest surprise in rehearsals so far?
How challenging this play is. But then, I really wasn’t surprised by that. The actors have to play characters who are the same but also different in each of the three scenarios. They have to grow up and mature as the scenes get more complex — it’s not easy!
Anything else?
Leonard Oakland is playing the role of the father who comes seeking information about his rebellious son — I’m really excited about that! He’s really talented and has such a strong wonderful presence as the father. Plus his role as a mentor to so many students at Whitworth makes him doubly resonant as the father figure at odds with his child.
Bobo’s e-mail exchange with Leonard Oakland:
Bobo: What are Pridamant's two best and two worst traits? (I don't have a script. I keep reading that he has his faults and virtues — but what are they?)
Professor Oakland: He is a granite-hearted, vain and rich lawyer who drove out his son years ago. He is ashamed to be visiting a sorcerer for news of his son, but he can’t stop thinking about him, now that he is facing death.
He is not a man of many evident virtues or kindnesses, he lacks self-knowledge (always a dead give-away), but he is shocked into tears (his first ever) by the visions of his son provided by the sorcerer.
In slogging through rehearsals, do you have newfound respect for actors? In what sense?
I have a huge respect for actors (my daughter has been one much of her life, though not at present). I also have a renewed respect for the ability of 20-year olds to memorize lines quickly. The students are all off-book, but I am not despite going over and over my speeches. When actors are working well, they convey a brilliance it is almost hard to watch up close, when I am on the stage. And they have apparently endless energy (even in flu season).
Has the father/son dynamic in the play at all affected your father/son dynamic in real life?
Not at all. I have always been brutal to my children to prepare them for the world, so Pridamant is merely typecasting.
[ photo: from a Feb. 2005 production of The Illusion at the University of South Carolina; see more photos here ]
Bobo: I read it years ago and hated it, and all I know is: It's about regrets, false memories, the old man wishing he'd been a better parent, alternate realities, and so on. But I’m excited to see it onstage.
Professor Trotter: Wow! I love it! But I do find as with all Kushner’s plays, that it doesn’t give itself up on the first reading — his plays get better and better for me each time I read them. I think he’s deceptively brilliant. And I personally love his ironic sense of comedy that pokes through even the most tragic of moments.
Why should we pay attention to some dumb 300-year-old French play?
Because Kushner has made it very relevant to a contemporary audience by highlighting what is not only timeless, but transforming it into a contemporary setting. The play challenges our clichés and assumptions, our dreams and ideals, by revealing that life isn’t a fairy tale and things are not always what they seem — which to me seems very contemporary. Yet there is still tremendous hope and power in his play. It’s a play that strikes me as refreshingly truthful and honest — ironic, given its title and theme. Ah! I love Kushner!
I’ve wanted to do this play for years – I think it’s probably one of the most challenging pieces I’ve ever done. I find it funny, poignant, joyous, tragic, and ultimately redemptive — but not an easy, pat redemption. Rather, it’s a redemption that comes from pain and growth as we learn to see ourselves as we truly are.
How will you stage it to reflect the play’s dreaminess?
We’re still talking about the design, but the set is really cool with lots of scrims to help us with theater magic. I would like to use as much theater magic as we’re able to come up with in our severely limited facility… Lighting and soundscape will be big factors, I imagine.
What kinds of changes did Kushner make?
For me, the really significant aspect of what Kushner has done is that he’s taken a very conventional romance/adventure and explored what’s beneath it. He’s taken two- dimensional, stereotypical characters common in 17th-century French drama and played with what would happen if they turned out to be real human beings with flaws. What’s beyond happily-ever-after? What motivates behavior that we just take for granted in an adventure? What happens if the hero loses the duel?
Kushner’s use of language is beautiful, rich and full of powerful imagery – but without the opaqueness of Corneille’s 17th-century verse. He also has his trademark sensibility of ironic humor — sometimes smacking us out of a false sentiment with a splash of cold water, as it were. Yet he also never shies away from deep genuine sentiment. I find this play heartbreakingly beautiful and poignant. His other characteristic is his ambiguity: When I teach this play, the students are always split over whether the ending is hopeful or bleak.
What are the play’s themes?
The cost of genuine love, the price and pain of redemption, the power of the arts and of the intangible “illusions” of life such as love, faith, hope, transcendence.
Professor Trotter: Wow! I love it! But I do find as with all Kushner’s plays, that it doesn’t give itself up on the first reading — his plays get better and better for me each time I read them. I think he’s deceptively brilliant. And I personally love his ironic sense of comedy that pokes through even the most tragic of moments.
Why should we pay attention to some dumb 300-year-old French play?
Because Kushner has made it very relevant to a contemporary audience by highlighting what is not only timeless, but transforming it into a contemporary setting. The play challenges our clichés and assumptions, our dreams and ideals, by revealing that life isn’t a fairy tale and things are not always what they seem — which to me seems very contemporary. Yet there is still tremendous hope and power in his play. It’s a play that strikes me as refreshingly truthful and honest — ironic, given its title and theme. Ah! I love Kushner!
I’ve wanted to do this play for years – I think it’s probably one of the most challenging pieces I’ve ever done. I find it funny, poignant, joyous, tragic, and ultimately redemptive — but not an easy, pat redemption. Rather, it’s a redemption that comes from pain and growth as we learn to see ourselves as we truly are.
How will you stage it to reflect the play’s dreaminess?
We’re still talking about the design, but the set is really cool with lots of scrims to help us with theater magic. I would like to use as much theater magic as we’re able to come up with in our severely limited facility… Lighting and soundscape will be big factors, I imagine.
What kinds of changes did Kushner make?
For me, the really significant aspect of what Kushner has done is that he’s taken a very conventional romance/adventure and explored what’s beneath it. He’s taken two- dimensional, stereotypical characters common in 17th-century French drama and played with what would happen if they turned out to be real human beings with flaws. What’s beyond happily-ever-after? What motivates behavior that we just take for granted in an adventure? What happens if the hero loses the duel?
Kushner’s use of language is beautiful, rich and full of powerful imagery – but without the opaqueness of Corneille’s 17th-century verse. He also has his trademark sensibility of ironic humor — sometimes smacking us out of a false sentiment with a splash of cold water, as it were. Yet he also never shies away from deep genuine sentiment. I find this play heartbreakingly beautiful and poignant. His other characteristic is his ambiguity: When I teach this play, the students are always split over whether the ending is hopeful or bleak.
What are the play’s themes?
The cost of genuine love, the price and pain of redemption, the power of the arts and of the intangible “illusions” of life such as love, faith, hope, transcendence.
What's the funniest line or episode from the play? (Don't give away any spoilers — but I'm afraid people might think it's all very heavy and intellectual.)
It’s so not heavy and intellectual — it’s a comedy, albeit an ironic one, with surprising poignancy and depth. There’s a Don Quixote-type character who is hilarious. And a fight between two rivals who are too young to know how to fight that’s also really funny. The other fights are exciting and scary!
It’s so not heavy and intellectual — it’s a comedy, albeit an ironic one, with surprising poignancy and depth. There’s a Don Quixote-type character who is hilarious. And a fight between two rivals who are too young to know how to fight that’s also really funny. The other fights are exciting and scary!
Why does the magician show the old man his son in three differing and varied scenarios? What's the point of introducing all the confusion?
Well, now, there’s the question! I’m not telling because that would be a spoiler.
What's been the biggest surprise in rehearsals so far?
How challenging this play is. But then, I really wasn’t surprised by that. The actors have to play characters who are the same but also different in each of the three scenarios. They have to grow up and mature as the scenes get more complex — it’s not easy!
Anything else?
Leonard Oakland is playing the role of the father who comes seeking information about his rebellious son — I’m really excited about that! He’s really talented and has such a strong wonderful presence as the father. Plus his role as a mentor to so many students at Whitworth makes him doubly resonant as the father figure at odds with his child.
Bobo’s e-mail exchange with Leonard Oakland:
Bobo: What are Pridamant's two best and two worst traits? (I don't have a script. I keep reading that he has his faults and virtues — but what are they?)
Professor Oakland: He is a granite-hearted, vain and rich lawyer who drove out his son years ago. He is ashamed to be visiting a sorcerer for news of his son, but he can’t stop thinking about him, now that he is facing death.
He is not a man of many evident virtues or kindnesses, he lacks self-knowledge (always a dead give-away), but he is shocked into tears (his first ever) by the visions of his son provided by the sorcerer.
In slogging through rehearsals, do you have newfound respect for actors? In what sense?
I have a huge respect for actors (my daughter has been one much of her life, though not at present). I also have a renewed respect for the ability of 20-year olds to memorize lines quickly. The students are all off-book, but I am not despite going over and over my speeches. When actors are working well, they convey a brilliance it is almost hard to watch up close, when I am on the stage. And they have apparently endless energy (even in flu season).
Has the father/son dynamic in the play at all affected your father/son dynamic in real life?
Not at all. I have always been brutal to my children to prepare them for the world, so Pridamant is merely typecasting.
[ photo: from a Feb. 2005 production of The Illusion at the University of South Carolina; see more photos here ]
Labels: Diana Trotter, Leonard Oakland, Pierre Corneille, The Illusion, Tony Kushner, Whitworth University
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